Considering that they have a 183 day, 7 hour per day work year and that they routinely produce an abysmal product of the few children who actually stick it out and graduate (The typical 30% dropout rate notwithstanding) teacher pay is actually pretty good. In fact, it's down right exorbitant, particularly when combined with their benefits and retirement.
Union scum teachers (as opposed to teachers that actually give a damn about what... and why... they are doing what they do) don't care about the taxpayers; they're dramatically unconcerned about our economy and frankly, are well, if not overly, paid for the frequently piss poor job they do.
Teachers in the upper end of the pay scale have a pay/benefits package approaching $100,000 a year. They have no formal accountability for their outcomes, so even sub normal teachers can and frequently do receive the same pay as the best teachers we have to offer.
I, too, have been posting on Rep. Pike's Facebook page as teachers whine, bitch, moan and snivel about Rep. Pike telling them the truth, a truth they don't want t6o hear. And that they don't want to hear it certainly doesn't make it anytheless true: teachers are, if not overpaid, certainly paid enough.
I have been posting:
If they don't like the pay/benefits/conditions of their employment?The democratian newsletter, eager to do the left's bidding, has to write an article about it.
Then they can quit. They'll be rapidly replaced, they won't be missed, and we'll do fine without them.
Rep. Pike starts Facebook debate about teacher wages
Her Facebook post has offended a number of teachers
Monday, June 24, 2013
State Rep. Liz Pike, R-Camas, is taking heat for a Facebook post in which she tells teachers to pick a different profession if they have a problem with their pay.
State Rep. Liz Pike, R-Camas
Addressing public school teachers who want state legislators to approve a cost of living increase for teachers, Pike wrote: "Congratulations on enjoying your last day of the school year. If I had the opportunity to choose my career all over, I would have opted to get the necessary degree and teaching certificate so that I too could enjoy summertime off with my children, spring break vacations, Christmas break vacations, paid holidays, a generous pension and health insurance benefits.
"Instead," Pike continued, "I chose to work a career in private sector business so that I could be one of those tax payers who funds your salaries and benefits as a state employee in a local school district."
Pike made the post on Friday. On Monday, Pike declined to comment further on the topic, saying her Facebook post speaks for itself.That Rep. Pike has a title does not make her any the less qualified or capable of expressing an opinion. That some teachers want to be butt-hurt over it is their problem, not hers.
Read the entire Facebook post on the Political Beat blog.
This story will be updated.
Teaching is a job. A job with little to no accountability that has been producing an increasingly poor product while demanding ever-increasing amounts of money to accomplish this nightmare. But it's still a job... like any other. Those who do it the best should be paid the best. Those who don't she not be.
Simple, really.
Many teachers act like they woke up in an alternative universe, joining a profession while apparently unaware what the job paid in terms of salary, benefits and retirement. They exhibit an arrogant sense of entitlement that is simply unsupported by the results they foist on us as "education."
I agree with my Representative. Teachers: if you don't like it,. then quit.
You'll soon be replaced and your whiny, sniveling bitching about what YOU get out of it won't be missed.
I liked one of the comments, but can't find it now. Essentially, "ditch the unions and then we'll talk about pay".
ReplyDeleteI've covered the "Education" topic and offered a solution before:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.martinhash.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=652
The misconception that teachers "only" work a 7 hour work day is ridiculous. Regardless of your politics, please realize that a teacher's work day does not end when the children leave the classroom. They work harder (both in hours and in effort) than many professionals I know. Whether it be attending trainings, spending their free time going to their students' dance performances or soccer games, or spending hours a night on grading and lesson plans, teachers deserve more credit for what they do. Again, I don't care if you agree with unions or not, if you agree with teachers pay or not. At least give them some credit for the hard work they do. As in any profession, they'll be some who don't work as hard as others. Don't let the few bad teachers give a bad reputation to teachers in general. We need good teachers in our state, especially now.
ReplyDeleteWashington is 12th highest in the nation for average teachers pay, yet dead in the middle with "24 states doing better than Washington in selected education statistics."
ReplyDeletePerhaps they need to perform their jobs better before demanding they be given more.
The notion of higher wages attracts better candidates is a farce as we can see.
Anonymous, clearly we draw a distinction between some really great, dedicated teachers and greedy union lackeys unwilling to pay their fair share in this elongated lousy economy.
ReplyDeleteAnd it is not a matter of what any deserve, it's a matter of what struggling families can afford.
They too are entitled to care for their families.
Yeah, ditch the unions, then we can all go back to work for a dollar a day, seven days a week. Isn't America great, even morons can have their say..If you want to work for penuts move to a right to work state and leave us alone.
ReplyDeleteCalm, Anonymous. If unions were the salvation of the worker as you apparently maintain, then no one in history would have ever gotten more than a dollar a day. You obviously are intelligent -- use intelligent reasoning.
ReplyDeleteTell you what, Anon. What say we try it as an experiment.
ReplyDeleteI'm willing.
What about you?