These example pics, from the website in question, were changed. Pressure from the people resulted in changing the line from merely "Kill Republicans" to the advice to "Fuck A Republican."
Just a little more of that diversity of thought thing the far Left loves to illustrate.
On the page of the local loyal opposition, stilwell's whining about Pastor Hutcherson using a phrase or two he doesn't happen to like (Which, come to think of it, is even MORE of that diversity of thought thing the democrats are genetically incapable of showing)
"Can you imagine the mighty trembling, shaking outrage that would have erupted in the noise machine if a liberal had said such a thing?" stillwell sniveled.
Well, let's see how long it takes for his bogus sense of outage to condemn THIS effort... like THAT would ever happen.
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I frankly don't know why you won't disasociate yourself from Huthcherson.
What is the GOP dysfunction around sex?
The Jim West allegations are stunning in their hypocrisy.
--Neo-comm
First of all, my sources confirm that the entire Microsoft issue on 1515 is overblown.
If Bill Gates himself walked into the R-caucus and demanded Republican support of the issue, the vote would have been the same.
Microsoft has NEVER had a strong Olympia presence. What Microsoft wanted or didn’t want on 1515 made absolutely zero difference, one way of the other.
What we have here is a situation where, I believe, Microsoft didn’t care about the outcome. Hutcherson’s involvement or effect on Microsoft’s position may never be accurately known. What I DO know is, that in the end, this whole situation is a contrived effort to MAKE Microsoft a player in the gay rights issue… contrived by neo-comm media in Seattle… contrived by gay activists… and contrived, forgive me, by people like you who, in reality, have no idea of the state of relations between Microsoft and the state legislature. (You have not, for example, noticed gay Microsoft employees actually showing some character and LEAVING Microsoft as a result of this episode, have you? I mean, this issue is SO important… you’d think they’d walk our en masse on this matter of principle.
Hardly.)
As for “disassociating” myself from Hutcherson…. I don’t know him, wouldn’t know him if he bit me; haven’t paid any attention to him up to now… and don’t plan on paying any particular attention to him in the future. For me to “disassociate” myself from him is for me to acknowledge that what he says, does or thinks makes some sort of difference. And frankly, I don’t happen to see that as the case. Neo-comms such as you, however, play directly into his hands by ascribing so much more impact on this issue to the man than he EVER had. You people have lost your minds on this issue because you’ve bought into that rock is a tree is a cat is a dog is a boy is a girl argument.
As for West… I believe there to be a special place in hell for sick bastards like that, regardless of party or vocation. I believed West to be a scumbag BEFORE he was outted, and all this sorry-assed episode did was confirm the rumors.
My first thought was he would be best served by the gift of a Luger with a single round in it. My second thought was that the D’s would make a great deal of hay about this… but my third thought was they’d probably be quieter then you might think, given the large percentage of their constituency that happens to be just like West.
As for “dysfunction,” I might ask you the same thing about abortion, or taxes, or spending, (I was impressed by Brad Owens’ 37% office budget increase… and amazed at Gregoire’s increase…. Of 38%… all in one budget! To democrats and neo-comms everywhere… I congratulate you!)
We’ll worry about our sexual dysfunctions… if you’ll be a good chap and get a handle about those issues, election reform, implementing Brian Sonntag’s budget recommendations and the like. (Last year, he discovered $3 billion in vaporized or illegally spent monies. Democrats in the Leg ignored him, of course… but what does one expect?)
Deal?
HHHmmm....
Maybe West oughta switch parties.
If he was a democrat... this wouldn't even have rated a mention.
Actually, there have been Microsoft employees who have left the company.
I'll concur in some part with your comments on Microsoft's activities in Olympia, or lack there of, but I do think that Microsoft's lobbying in Washington DC is their overriding concern that drives their behavior. Keeping Ralph Reed on your payroll is an indicator of where one's legislative bent is going.
Again, why are the Republicans all hot to trot to sell out their party to social conservatives?? The anti-homosexual agenda is bad for business, as it hurts employee recruitment and retention.
Lastly, I don't care whether Jim West was a D or an R, but to be so actively involved in suppressing homosexuals while being a practicing homosexual is the highest form of hypocrisy.
Neo-comm
A quick check of the article you cited indicates that precisely ONE employee has left over this issue, certainly his privilege… but what about the rest?
My initial observation was this: “(You have not, for example, noticed gay Microsoft employees actually showing some character and LEAVING Microsoft as a result of this episode, have you? I mean, this issue is SO important… you’d think they’d walk out en masse on this matter of principle.
Hardly.)”
One employee does not a trend or wave or movement make… unless the number of Microsoft employees that happen to be gay is much…. Much…. Smaller then one would be led to believe.
Now, this serves to support my position, which is, frankly, that the issue just isn’t that big. Otherwise, EVERY gay… or at least MOST gays would walk. The fact is, whatever the gay population of Microsoft, they appear to be voting with their feet… and their feet ain’t moving.
Further, I would venture to say that for every employee that leaves Microsoft, there would be a dozen or more trying to take their place… HB 1515 notwithstanding.
In DC, I would venture to say that Microsoft has no gay agenda of any kind, nor any impact on one. This issue will be decided at the state level… and it will be decided here the same way, with or without Microsoft’s blessing.
Ralph Reed is on Microsoft’s payroll. Is their no balance to that? Are you inferring that Microsoft has no one from the Left on their payroll? Or are we just not hearing about that?
Why are the democrats so hot to trot to sell out their party to social liberals?
As for it being “bad for business,” business, as a whole, continues to remain silent on the matter… primarily because I believe that business doesn’t share your perspective.
What, for example, have been the negative impacts on the 11 states that overwhelmingly passed anti-gay marriage laws last November? Have their economies suffered as a result?
Has Massachusetts, the current mecca of gay rights, become an economic superpower of some sort? Why haven’t all the gays moved to that august state? I mean, this place is the utopian ideal of gay rights, is it not?
I mean… if it’s a “recruiting and retention” issue, then every gay on the West Coast should have moved there by now… don’t you think?
This issue is, in the end, minor and relatively unimportant in the overall scheme of things. The Left has far overblown the issue because, face it, the Left is much more about division then it is unity.
West deserves whatever he gets. No argument here.
UPDATE: Microsoft again supports gay rights legislation:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002265716_webmicro06.html
Business is not silent on this matter. Boeing, Nordstrom, and other large employers have come out in support of HB 1515.
Do you know how difficult it is to relocate? How expensive? People don't just pick up and move. However, if HB 1515 eventually passes, you'll see an exodus out of Oregon.
This wasn't the left pushing the issue, this was Hutcherson and his ilk pushing their extremist agenda. That he has the imprimatur of the local Republican establishment speaks volumes.
Democrats are against government control of people's private business, period. Republicans may rue the day that they handed their party over to the extremists that seek nothing less than theocratic control.
--Neo-comm
Hey… I know Microsoft caved. I should think it would put the effect of Reed and others on Microsoft policy into some level of perspective.
The Left lost its collective mind over the issue of Reed working for Microsoft and Hutcherson’s alleged influence there. Because of what happened, the Left immediately set out to locate and destroy targets that they could “blame” for Microsoft’s actions.
I’ve stated all along that Reed’s involvement is overblown (chances are he didn’t know HB 1515 existed) and Hutcherson just wanted his 15 minutes. To me, the policy was a result of a complete lack of emphasis on the issue because, in the end, it’s so minor that it doesn’t really matter.
As for the “silence of business,” where were they while this debate was going on? Where was their press conferences, for example, demanding that this bill pass?
Nowhere.
The key to politics is never what people SAY… it’s what people DO.
Where were the lobbyists? Why didn’t they make the rounds, demanding that the Republicans support this?
Nowhere.
The key to politics is never what people SAY… it’s what people DO.
Cost’s to relocate?
Courtesy of the Army, I’ve had to move in excess of 40 times. So, yeah, I’ve got some small idea.
My question is this: How much are your principles worth?
This is, allegedly, a matter of “Civil Rights,” or so we’re told. So… how much are one’s civil rights worth? What’s the dollar sign of sacrifice?
Like the gay employees who remained at Microsoft, the fact is that the portrayal of this is overblown hype. If these things REALLY mattered, then there would have been a WAVE of gay’s leaving that company. Anything else, well, that’s a compromise of integrity that I wouldn’t be willing to make.
And, if it really mattered, the gay population of Massachusetts would have skyrocketed. You, for example, refer to an “exodus out of Oregon.” Has such an “exodus” taken place out of New York? Out of Philly?
Of course not.
And, I’ve got to tell you, there can only be so many reasons why that has NOT happened.
Have the economies of those two cities suffered as a result? Of course not… in fact, the City of New York ended the quarter with something like a $3 Billion surplus.
And this goes back to my earlier point. We’re TOLD it’s “bad for business,” but there seems to be precious little to PROVE that assertion, and a great deal more to show where that assertion is, in fact, untrue.
And, your hyperbole on the matter of the “extremist agenda.” How can keeping the status quo of centuries be the “extremist agenda?” On the contrary, the agents of social change are arguably the ones going “etremist”on us. Or have you already forgotten the results of the gay marriage votes across this country?
There is an “extremist agenda,” all right. But it would seem to me, based on the quantifiable vote results across the US that perspective is it. Hutcherson is defending that vote result… you’re opposing it. Which position is “extremist?”
In fact, the gay marriage agenda is even opposed by Sen. John Kerry.
"I think it's a mistake," Kerry said. "I think it's the wrong thing, and I'm not sure it reflects the broad view of the Democratic Party in our state."
Do you mean to paint Kerry and Hutcherson with the same brush?
“That he has the imprimatur of the local Republican establishment speaks volumes.” And that your agenda is opposed across the country, by actual vote, speaks a library.
You do recall, don’t you that your perspective on gay marriage has NEVER won at the ballot box?
“Democrats are against government control of people's private business, period.”
Yeah… I know you folks are very big on “choice,” unless it’s allowing the people to vote on tax increases.
It’s kinda like you folks condemning Republicans for the Schiavo vote while you give our own Brian Baird a pass for HIS vote to SUPPORT the Schiavo bill.
Or does Brian SUPPORT “government control of people's private business?”
We all know how quiet senate democrats were on this vote. In fact, we didn’t hear a peep outta them… did we?
“Republicans may rue the day that they handed their party over to the extremists that seek nothing less than theocratic control.”
Like democrats ALREADY rue the day they handed control over to the fringe Leftists that seek nothing less than social anarchy?
Here’s today’s quiz question: if your position is so mainstream… if Hutcherson and those like him are so extremist… then why don’t you and those who think like you “show” us and those who think like us, that we’re all wrong… that we’re actually the societal fringe… and run an initiative?
That’s right… run an initiative.
I mean, your perspective has all the businesses behind you, allegedly; your mainstream position is certainly what the people of Washington want, right?
Principle DEMANDS it. It is, after all, a civil rights issue, isn’t it?
But, in reality, we know why such an initiative will never see the light of day. We know why there is all this emphasis on the legislature acting on this issue.
And we know it is because the people of this state, as blue as it is, would slaughter such an effort… exactly like they estroyed the last initiative you folks ran.
But that shouldn’t stop you. It is, your side keeps telling us, a matter of civil rights.
So why don’t YOU run a gay rights initiative? And a gay marriage initiative besides?
I mean… what BETTER way to put the Hutcherson’s of the world in their respective place?
There are extremists on both sides of these issues. But the mainstream speaks at the ballot box. Perhaps, you might reconsider?
Gee.... does that mean you've written me out of the will, "Anonymous?"
The entire point of this post was to illustrate the reek of hypocrisy democrats typically immerse themselves in. Beat hell out of Delay? Swell. Nail House Republicans for the Schiavo vote? You bet.
But... provide equal condemnation to the democrats who have done the same thing that Delay has done?
Silence.
Nail Brian Baird for SUPPORTING the Schiavo bill?
Silence.
This, is just another episode, of that.
That I may be a "moron" does nothing to change the basic facts of the matter.
Have a nice day, Anonymous. But try and attend a few more of those democrat "diversity" classes. See if you can't get them to include "Diversity of thought," won't you?
THERE'S a good chap.
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