tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post7048656636290845277..comments2023-09-27T01:44:56.585-07:00Comments on Clark County Politics: So, I was at "The Liar" Leavitt's dog and pony show last night.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-36011819210475199462010-07-23T17:43:12.383-07:002010-07-23T17:43:12.383-07:00What an excellent discussion!What an excellent discussion!K.J. Hintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071279261669117974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-65115574587473795102010-07-23T17:21:30.829-07:002010-07-23T17:21:30.829-07:00Martin, I think you make a good point for the comm...Martin, I think you make a good point for the commuters of the Clark County region. <br /><br />But wasn't the bridge's original platform or the MAIN reason it was even started to be discussed four or five years ago was the ability of freight to move in and out of the Portland Metropolitan region? <br /><br />Not Light Rail, Not tolls, Not if the newest bridge needs to have environmental twirley (helix generators) birds on it to generate power, get rid of Pearson Airpark to make some Portland doohickey look better for the bridge or major mass transit improvements. <br /><br />All of this and more is just added gravy train that is being added through this and other related procesess instead of making this bridge attractive to freight shippers, bulk hauklers and other big transportation that provide a significant job and employment centers in our region?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-61107951646344684992010-07-23T10:20:40.453-07:002010-07-23T10:20:40.453-07:00Martin succinctly sums up my position. Read it if...Martin succinctly sums up my position. Read it if you've got a minute.K.J. Hintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071279261669117974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-90322922622383513922010-07-23T00:36:07.617-07:002010-07-23T00:36:07.617-07:00One more comment. I watched what Tim had to say on...One more comment. I watched what Tim had to say on the columbia river crossing project sponsorship council meeting. CCP, I suggest you watch it for yourself because I think the snooze media mischaracterized his commments like so many other things that they do. <br /><br />I watched that video four times this evening to make sure I didn't hear it wrong from Tim's own mouth. <br /><br />Now if you REALLY want to hear some thing fun, listen to Paula Hammond's comments just before Tim's about the Puget Sound and how much she would love to take these ideas and use them up north.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-11742183154454726892010-07-23T00:06:06.754-07:002010-07-23T00:06:06.754-07:00Why your welcome! :)
And from my link above, the...Why your welcome! :) <br /><br />And from my link above, the Tim leavitt stuff is the last twenty minutes of the video, so you can skip ahead. In fact the Traffic Demand Management - tolls part is in the every last 30+ minutes. <br /><br />No need to watch almost three hours of different scenarios of the bridge affecting Hayden Island or other stuff. <br /><br />Leave that to people who have no life. :) <br /><br />Oh, if you want to watch Moeller squirm with having the CVTV camera on him for twenty minutes, I'll leave it to you to do a "where's Moeller" (where's waldo search) through the video.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-30178041439565655652010-07-22T22:31:34.914-07:002010-07-22T22:31:34.914-07:00This was my editorial on tolls:
http://martinhash...This was my editorial on tolls:<br /><br />http://martinhash.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=175Martin Hashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319289178270392132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-86032772463715418782010-07-22T22:08:48.557-07:002010-07-22T22:08:48.557-07:00You may and I will.
I am SOOOOO there.
And thank...You may and I will.<br /><br />I am SOOOOO there.<br /><br />And thanks for the info!K.J. Hintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071279261669117974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-55287032377267518812010-07-22T21:17:42.994-07:002010-07-22T21:17:42.994-07:00CCP, if you watch: (direct link: http://www.cityof...CCP, if you watch: (direct link: http://www.cityofvancouver.us/cvtv/cvtvarchive2/Community_Events/2010_Events/Columbia_River_Crossing_Project_Sponsors_Council_7-16-10.wmv ) you'll see that Steve horenstein suggests that the side is at the end of the tunnel for the columbia river crossing project sponsorship council and that their last meeting may be August 9th? And that they are working to have an overall vote on the bridge to everywhere but one's pocket book. <br /><br />You might want to watch along with me as I'm becoming more fascinated by the indocrination and supporting material on what is being consituted "the Plan." <br /><br />Why do I have a feeling that this will not get recorded just like every one Portland sponsorship council meetings for the past year? <br /><br />Might I suggest that you and Lew might want to attend?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-81882004089345131032010-07-22T18:03:50.781-07:002010-07-22T18:03:50.781-07:00Thanks for stopping by, Mr. Hash.
The problem wit...Thanks for stopping by, Mr. Hash.<br /><br />The problem with the toll issues are at least two-fold:<br /><br />1. With 65,000 or so commuters going to and from Oregon every day, and a toll described as being from $7.00 down to $5.00 per day, each commuter family may have to bear the additional burden of these tolls at the rate of as much as $150 per month.... times 12... or $1800 or so per year.<br /><br />2. Each one of those dollars will be vacuumed out of the local economy.<br /><br />They won't buy newspapers, pizza, movie tickets, park entry fees, golf rounds, CD's or DVD's or a great many other things they buy now. Those dollars won't produce a dime in revenue to any city, county or state, except to pay for a bridge we do not need and that no one has asked us, or will ask us, apparently, if we want.<br /><br />Everything government does... particularly when government is doing it at a cost of billions, will have a ripple effect. At the end of the day, there is no way replacing this bridge could possibly nullify the negative impacts of that decision, particularly when there are other options available.<br /><br />The fix was in for this option and this option only. The whole thing is being done ONLY to bring light rail into Clark County, which will make it the most expensive transportation project per foot in the history of this planet.<br /><br />If not "No Tolls," then no deal. It's easy for the bridge/light rail cheerleaders to demand this bridge when they will not have to pay the tolls on it, and oddly, very, very few of the bridge proponents will ever have to use it to get to work.<br /><br />The taxpayers have already vaporized $100 million and all we've got to show for it is a tall stack of paper. But compared to the billions they WANT to spend, I would cheerfully write that entire amount off to get rid of this unneeded, unwanted, divisive and worthless project.<br /><br />Again, thank you for stopping by.K.J. Hintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071279261669117974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-67725458641615548452010-07-22T16:38:57.269-07:002010-07-22T16:38:57.269-07:00People who run for office based on irresponsible, ...People who run for office based on irresponsible, cynical commitments (i.e. “No new taxes,” or “No tolls”) are reprehensible BUT once those promises are made they MUST be lived up to. My position on tolls is that they are just another way for Oregon to tax Washingtonians, however, I am not a “no tolls” guy.Martin Hashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11319289178270392132noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-39544696772884203622010-07-21T10:29:42.372-07:002010-07-21T10:29:42.372-07:00Gee. I wonder if the Columbian reporter had left ...Gee. I wonder if the Columbian reporter had left by then, or just didn't think that an elected official trashing a group opposed to her position was newsworthy?K.J. Hintonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04071279261669117974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10833510.post-74729851548533756932010-07-21T09:49:57.422-07:002010-07-21T09:49:57.422-07:00You missed Jeanne Harris little hissy fit as she &...You missed Jeanne Harris little hissy fit as she "scolded" the audience and talked down to us as if we were 3rd graders interrupting a class.<br /><br />Too many act as if we are supposed to listen to them, while they don't have to listen to us.<br /><br />The Columbian's depiction of event was a bit biased, as usual. While there were catcalls and audible groans, it was nowhere near what we saw in protests and college campus riots of the 1960's, many participants who now control government.Lewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06422249750094117697noreply@blogger.com